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[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Lots of suspicious comments in this thread. Seems like political astro-turfing has already arrived on Lemmy

[–] saltedFish@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the ones from hexbear aka lemmygrad-lite?

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Possibly, I didn't look where they're all from, nor do I know what hexbear is or why it's significant. Sounds like some kind of intra-Lemmy drama which I'm not too interested in. Just noticed a fair amount, lets say........not totally organic, seemingly agenda pushing comments.

Edit: Forget my previous comment. I now see the problem with Hexbear.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

agenda pushing is when people have an opinion that doesn't align with my own

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No it's when there's mysteriously dozens of comments just magically showing up that are contrary to the vastly popular opinion on only one contentious issue, that serve the best interests of an entity with the time, resources to try to sway public opinion through fake grassroots posting. Also that entity has a fragile ego and a long history of online manipulation.......oh and also coincidentally they are all coming from the same server

[–] meth_dragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

entity with the time, resources to try to sway public opinion

why would any foreign political entity waste its valuable english proficient resources on astroturfing an online backwater filled with politically illiterate nobodies? peak liberal solipsism

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It would appear that way yes......and as mentioned, they have a history of having extremely thin skin and doing exactly that. So do I expect some group to do the exact thing they have always done? Yes. Yes I do.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would like to ask you to employ some critical thinking here. Setting aside that the people responding to you have much better English than even a pretty high-level English speaker coming from Mandarin, most of these accounts have months or years of post histories spent almost entirely talking to each other on their previously un-federated instance, including in some cases very harsh arguing, as well as talking about the US on a personal level with intimate detail (and/or whatever other country they say they are from). Do you really believe the most simple answer is that this is all kabuki theater by the CPC to astroturf an obscure collection of websites by wasting a ridiculous amount of resources and the time of highly English-fluent actors? vs just "some people think differently from you"?

If you concede this point, then I would like to ask you to just consider for a moment the implications of the fact that you took the much more absurd and flimsy explanation as though it was just the common-sense explanation. What does that say about the way that you conceptualize the world and what people believe?

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

And by "have a history of it" you mean "I've been told it so many times in the western echo chambers I hang out it that I just implicitly believe it.

Mate, you've already had it explained to you where we're coming from, but apparently the idea of people who genuinely disagree with you is so fucking foreign to you that your redditor brain literally cannot process it, so you continue to descend into paranoid delusion.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

maaaaybe we weren't federated until this week. but nah, paid bots makes more sense. very-intelligent

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol, so your issue is that people with similar opinions happen to be on the same server? truly the most obvious evidence of agenda pushing!

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I love how liberals think anybody who's outside of their echo chamber must be a paid shill. It's absolutely inconceivable to them that there is a significant amount of people who have contrary opinions.

[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vastly popular opinion held by whom?

[–] Jesus@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Anyone with half a brain can see what's going on. I'm not playing these silly obfuscation games. You're bad at what you do.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, anyone with half a brain can see that people from a leftist instance are contributing leftist opinions to a space they just federated with. What were you expecting?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Yes, anybody with half a brain can see that you have paranoid delusions.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hexbear is a large, leftist instance, that just recently federated, and most of us are pro-China. We're not bots and we're not getting paid, but we're not shy about our political views. That's the reason you're suddenly seeing a bunch more comments defending China.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude what are you talking about I’m paying down my mortgage with the xibux I’m getting from dunking on libs here.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You guys have been getting paid!? The whole time?? ohnoes

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am literally swimming in oceans of renmibi right now scrooge mcduck style thanks to all the libs I have crushed at zaddie xi’s behest.

Plz tell Xi I have not received my payments this month I need it for buying Estrogen please Xi

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