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In a leaked memo, Shopify CEO Tobi Lütke put limits on employees having side hustles, saying Shopify requires 'unshared attention'::Shopify CEO Tobi Lütke discourages employees from side hustles in company memo, saying their jobs require their undivided attention.

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[–] Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 201 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What an employee does in their private time is none of a company's business. They can fuck off tbh.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Unless the employee is competing directly with the company

(I originally read into nonexistent context from the headline and am dum-dum.)

[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck that noise.

In tech, my brain is my brain. Your employment is a license to use my brain for 8 hours a day. If I choose to get employed elsewhere, I still have my brain and it's being licensed there too. If you want to license my brain 24/7, then we're upping the cost significantly and you better fucking put it in the terms.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah you're not understanding the hypothetical at all.

If I hire you to do a job, and outside of working hours for me, you're actively working against me, you're fucking fired out of a cannon.

[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thing is it's never that black and white. Every business does somethings better than it's competitors, otherwise one of them would have already gone under. It's people that work at both that brimg both businesses forward.

Why do you think big tech big tech companies call as soon as you leave another big tech company?

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We're talking about working simultaneously for direct competitors. You don't do that. You get rightfully fired from whichever company you're stabbing in the back. It's a conflict of interest, period.

Freelance or contractors hired only for a specific project does not apply.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big words for a little guy who’s not currently paying me.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you daft? Seriously.

It's a hypothetical, and it's describing clear CONFLICT OF INTEREST, not a fucking iamverybadass comment.

If I started Big Ass data ANALysis and hired you design an analytics suite to sell access to businesses, and it's way better than direct competitor's Tiny Data Intelligence Computing's product, and you start working directly for Tiny DIC coding their product package, that's a conflict of interest and you WILL be fired. It's fucking simple.

Sounds like you are very badass.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thing is I’m all for a company dumping an employee who engages in hate speech, for example, in their spare time. It’s at-will employment so anything goes technically.

The problem here is that the guy is targeting something totally inappropriate: the concept of personal time itself. He’s saying in thinly coded language that he expects people to be working all the time. He wants to own their spare time. There’s nothing to do about this except for his staff to dump him and his company and quit their jobs. It’s at-will employment so anything goes.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The capitalist mindset is basically slave holding with extra steps. They think they own you, but couch it in corporate-speak, using emotive words like ‘loyalty’ and ‘efficiency’. That way, instead of sounding like the narcissistic leeches they are, the onus is on the employee to not break the bonds of ‘trust’ bestowed upon them by their capitalist overlords.

I felt this so hard, when I started getting sick, I quit my job proactively rather than inflict the harm my tardiness and less-than-peak performance might do to the company. No severance, no safety net, and now I’m literally destitute after being a top performer in my industry for years. It works.