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[–] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 8 months ago (20 children)

All the invasions of Iran, Afganistan, Vietnam, Syria, etc where unjustfied invasions

  • The US has never invaded Iran
  • Afganistan was completely justified; the US could not let 9/11 go. Few countries in the world disputed this at the time, even among those unfriendly to the US. You can certainly criticize how it played out--I sure as hell do.
  • Vietnam, yeah, not going to argue there
  • Syria was a complex 13 way clusterfuck. We supported a specific side against another specific side, mostly with material and air support, and some limited ground support. It's not exactly an invasion, but this is certainly another place where it's more about how it played out than the support in itself.
[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -3 points 8 months ago (12 children)

I did mean Iraq, but Iran is not much better. US staged a coup in Iran to get a puppet government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Release_of_U.S._government_records_and_official_acknowledgement Afganistan is not justified, you don't invade an entire country because of a terroist attack. It was an excuse, just like the Patriot Act for more imperisalism and antidemocratic actions. Calling things invasions are semantics, more important is the bigger picture. US has huge influnace in the region thorug coups and military invasions.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

NATO did not invade Iraq, the US did. You are conflating things.

[–] bumphot@lemy.lol -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

NATO is heavily influenced by US. When they ask other countries to join, they wear a NATO hat, when they invade other countries they where their counturies independent hats that just so happens to be in NATO.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oops you admit they are not the same, but try to confuse the issue with "influence". Followed by more with "hat" which is lol worthy. NATO did not invade Iraq. The US did.

Something tells me you're trying to be intentionally obtuse trying to conflate everything so ciao

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