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Performing Nazi salutes has been illegal in Germany and Austria since the end of World War II and is punishable by law with prison time.

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[–] Flashbert@feddit.de 103 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This ia huge clickbait sadly. It's some random small oktoberfest, where some drunken germans maybe doing the Hitler greeting.

I'm not saying it's okay what they do, but by far not world news. This would be maximum local news if at all.

[–] Deathcrow@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well they are also playing "Erika" which is a right wing dog whistle, though maybe not as uncommon in these circles, as outright Nazi salutes

Edit: Also curiously most people, myself included, never find themselves in danger of accidentally heil hitlering even when blackout drunk. Seems to become a more common occurrence in Saxony though.

[–] Bigmouse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I wish i could extinguish every trace of fascism in every aspect of reality. I really do. Stupid Nazis are hindering me from enjoying old german folk songs without being judged :(

[–] _s10e@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I'm thinking the same, but then I'm not sure where to put this video (ignoring the sound track) on a scale from drunken singing to obvious Nazi salute.

Maybe i don't know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air? The arm movement seems unnatural (if the intention was signing with arms in the air), but this could still sort-of pass as not 100% Heil Hitler.

The band chose the song, for sure, that's questionable. The event organisers should not allow this to happen. But the guests, should they leave? Sit down quietly and wait for the next song?

I could be in that tent and not recognise the song. Not my kind of music.

I could see people innocently copying the movement of others. It may be a tent full of Nazis, scary, but the video does not proof this.

[–] Deathcrow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe i don't know enough about Bierzelt culture. If they were singing Hölle, hölle, hölle or Atemlos, would you notice the (right) arm in the air?

Did we watch the same video? In the Twitter thread I saw the lady right in front was doing multiple Nazi salutes in a row, very excited about the song. Don't think there's any ambiguity what she was doing