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Ron DeSantis ally Chris Rufo has close ties with ‘dissident right’ magazine
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I think that's a little different from supporting the Unabomber though. But I almost guarantee you no one will ask him directly about that.
Criticism is criticism, whether it's the Unabomber or weird dating hijinks, either way he'll react very similarly, he will deny, deflect, project, and dismiss, because that is how his brain has evolved and adapted to handle criticism.
I'm not sure if you're in Florida or not, but if you're not you only get to see what makes national and international headlines, I live here and near one of the more critical local stations, Orlando has been a thorn in his side constantly and even moreso after the Disney mess he created for himself, so they really dig into his BS nearly every chance they get, while still not actually confronting him the way you want them to.
One of the reasons why we don't challenge DeSantis as much as other governors here is because he's shown that he is petty, he's shown that he will cause problems for his critics, and he still seems to have a lot of support from some really crazy people here. So the thought of being one of his targets is a little scary, and he has the legislation in his pocket they will just create laws to justify his actions after the fact. Florida is currently a fascist state, we'll see how well things go this next election, but I've been here for long enough to expect disappointment.
I admit I'm not in Florida, but I don't agree that criticism is criticism. "Are you an asshole to women?" is a hugely different question to "do you support a terrorist?" A lot fewer people will care about "DeSantis is an asshole to women" than they will "DeSantis supports terrorism."
But that's the thing, DeSantis is knowingly supporting terrorism right now, one of his proxies is LibsofTiktok, aka Chaya Raichik, she's been pushing stochastic terrorism and has been linked to several bombing attempts and threats. He also refuses to condemn Nazis as they threaten Jews at synagogues across the state, he's even had Nazi iconography in his campaign ads and quietly fired/reassigned the person responsible for that. So Ron DeSantis is no stranger to supporting terrorism, he supports Nazis, Proud Boys, Putin, people banning and burning books, bullying gay and trans kids, so you can say he definitely supports terrorism from his actions.
You seem to think he's going to change if confronted or modify his behavior, but bullies like him only change when they get their asses kicked, and who is going to be able to kick the ass of a governor who surrounds himself with lackeys willing to do his enemies harm? Police willing to arrest his foes? A political party that enables and supports this garbage behavior? DeSantis has no reason to change, even worse, he thinks we all need to change to conform to his worldview, and that's what he is trying to do with what he's removing from our schools from the elementary to the college level. He's a Christian nationalist fascist, and some hard hitting questions aren't going to change anything about that, they may even increase his support among conservatives.
I don't think he's going to change.
I think the press should have some balls and ask those questions rather than shy away from them whether or not it will change. You can't honestly believe that hard questions shouldn't be asked.
Of course i think hard questions should be asked, but again like I said in my first reply to you, he's not going to answer, so why waste time? Why chance having your press credentials f'd with? Why chance right wing psychopaths trying to intimidate you? Especially when you already know he's not going to answer.
You seem to still not be getting it, either that or you're sealioning me, but I'm going to continue to treat you as sincere, but what you're not getting is that this man does not do criticism under any circumstances, ffs he married his wife because she's basically a pretty version of a "Yes man". Any reporter who tries to show criticism will almost certainly be wasting their time, while also making a powerful enemy willing to cause them problems.
DeSantis is also going to avoid those instances where he may find himself at risk of hearing criticisms, this is just who he is, and believe me plenty of us have loads of questions and criticisms for him. I mean ffs he literally had one of his aides die in the hallway outside of his office, wouldn't you think we'd want to know more about something like that? Yet he will never answer, because he knows he doesn't have to, and he knows that he doesn't actually care about anything except his and his agendas success. This guy is a Harvard law school grad, a veteran Navy officer who worked closely with the SEALS and Gitmo interrogators, he knows exactly what he's doing and what type of people he's consorting with, and like his role with the SEALS and Gitmo interrogators, he knows exactly what he can get away with.
You really need to come to terms with who you're talking about and learn to understand him better, because he's going to keep being a problem for all of us, and will continue to ignore, deflect, and project any criticism.
Okay, so who should the media ask the hard questions to if not people like state governors? I don't understand why you think a non-answer is a non-story. Not responding to "do you support terrorism" is, in itself, a story.
But I really want to know who you think the media should ask hard questions to.
The media should ask hard questions to the people that aren't going to just ignore or deflect them obviously, maybe they should ask Donald Trump some harder questions, because Donnie is going to talk whether you want him to or not.
There are a whole slew of folks that the media would be better suited at going after than DeSantis, but there are also other folks similar to DeSantis that still shouldn't be ignored, especially the ones that are more vulnerable than DeSantis is.The only people that should be asking DeSantis questions are the ones he can't lie to, he can't deflect on, and that's something like the FBI.
Also again we all know the answer about DeSantis supporting terrorism, that answer is yes, hell CPAC sarcasticly admitted that they are domestic terrorists:
They know what they are and what they're doing, it's the naive folks who don't realize won't care, and their supporters who definitely don't care, and no journalist asking questions is going to change those people.
I've got two DeSantis humpers in my life and there is nothing you can say to make them waver about Ron being the "best governor in the US" because believe me, I've tried, they know he's a petty little tyrant, but that's what they want, and it's pathetic and unAmerican, neither of these people can articulate why they like DeSantis, but I'm fairly certain it's rooted in racism and the way DeSantis attacks his detractors. I know this because one of these people also admitted to being a Klandice Owens fan, and his fandom for her was summed up by him as "I like it when she "gets them'" as in he likes it when Klandice gish gallops and attacks people on her show. They like the outrage and they're attracted to it and the drama like moths to flame.
DeSantis should be thoroughly reported on, but again, I wouldn't waste my time asking questions, he's not going to answer, but he should be thoroughly covered by the press while not expecting to ever get an answer fromhim or his team.