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[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago (16 children)

What you're asking for is fairly unrealistic. The only way this could work sustainably would be for something to exist where you host your own tile server and routing service and patch that into OSM. Otherwise, even if the app itself is open source, the backend will cost money to run and will be proprietary.

The reason that OSM is able to be fully open source is because you host the tiles on your phone and do the routing calculations locally.

[–] wmassingham@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I can't think of any reason the backend can't be open-source too.

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (12 children)

It costs money to host something like that. You want low latency, real-time routing and tile-rendering? Even more money. Sure, it could be funded by donations or something like that, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're willing to spend all the money on setting up and running a server, why not just spend way less money to get more phone storage and use OSM?

[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Setting up a server just for this is clearly overkill, but if you already have a homeserver it would be great to be able to deploy the backend. Sadly there is no such thing currently

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I totally agree. Running a server on a home machine that's already running 24/7 is trivial. I don't know why this guy is acting like it's a big deal. I've got a $100 mini-PC running multiple servers already. What's one more?

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not a BIG deal. I self-host a ton of stuff. It's just a bigger deal than spending a bit more for phone storage for the vast majority of people.

[–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is true for literally every selfhosted app

[–] thejevans@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. Hence why I wondered why that would be an acceptable option compared to simply changing OPs posted requirements for far less cost and headache.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily. Most people in the US are locked into some kind of ridiculous contract that makes swapping/upgrading their phone a pain in the ass and a financial burden. To be fair, these same types of people probably lack the ability to run a home server so maybe my point is moot 😅

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