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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 78 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (16 children)

Europe: USA help me

USA: No problem. Who are we fighting against?

Europe: Russia.

USA: What I’m saying is this: You have a group on one side and you have a group on the other, and they came at each other with bombs-- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the good guys-- you just called them the good guys-- that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that’s the way it is. I think there’s blame on both sides. If you look at both sides -- I think there’s blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don’t have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

In the olden days, we used to have something that we called a "conflict of interest" where, oh lets say that someone who said the above had much of their wealth tied up in the bank accounts of the aggressor party, and then we might choose to listen to what they had to say a little less bigly. Now, the alternative facts reign supreme, and we very well might join with said aggressor party as soon as 2024 or 2028.:-(

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Tbh that's something I'm afraid of. That Biden will win this year, but Trump will keep running until the end of time (which is when he either wins and becomes dictator, or dies)

I'm also afraid he will never die, and I think he will, but sometimes I still think there's a monster under the bed that's gonna eat my toes and I can't fight that with logic.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but it's far worse than that. Trump is mostly a symptom - he is also a cause to be sure, but mostly he is a symptom of other underlying issues. Putin being one of the prime ones there. i.e., the puppet is replaceable, the forces behind the mask not so much.

The only thing required for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing.

But they did not, and now I am not certain that this fight is even winnable (although it's not entirely over yet!:-D).

[–] acetanilide@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

About the former stuff: me too.

About whether stuff is too late to change, I guess we'll all find out together!

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