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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 293 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But Antifa is the real danger, right?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 172 points 9 months ago (49 children)

my most favorite game when i find a conservative is to ask them point blank:

are you a fascist or are you an anti-fascist? you only get to pick one.

and they squiiiiiiirm

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I like asking to play a game of who can list more politically-motivated homicides for each ideology and conservatives strangely never want to play.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Let's be real. No one wants to play that game.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I would answer anti-fascist, but if someone asked me "Are you communist or anti-communist? Pick one" I would answer "neither"

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You could pick either. There's no problem with having communist ideologies or being for capitalism.

There is a problem with fascism, it's not comparable to communism. A closer example would be asking someone if they are a racist or not.

We should be taking a hard line at certain ideologies and anyone that hesitate is suspect imo.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Racist or anti-racist, really. Many people can answer "I'm not racist, but...(insert racist statement)"

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'm not racist, but sourdough is the best bread for a grilled cheese.

[–] degen@midwest.social 8 points 9 months ago

Ah, so you just have ill will toward the French!

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

I'm not racist, but have you tried substituting mayonnaise instead of butter on your grilled cheese sandwiches? It levels then up nicely.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not racist, but I prefer Formula1 over NASCAR.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The point is that "neither" indicates someone who does not agree with an ideology but also does not see it as a threat.

You are of course free to treat that person accordingly.

[–] Corgito_Ergo_Sum@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Compulsory alliance is sort of a core feature of fascism so you really must be either fascist or anti-fascist.

If fascist government is in power, it will creat a system in which non-partisan participation furthers and advances the fascist state, so one cannot “opt out”. Since a fascist system won’t entertain neutral, the question “Are you fascist or anti-fascist? You can only pick one.” Is not inherently disingenuous.

Communism does not force people into supporting it, there “neither” is an acceptable answer to “Are you communist or anti-communist” in a way that cannot be applied to fascism.

Well, Communism doesn’t force participation as long as you don’t ask the tankiis, but fuck the tankies.

A great point well made.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

The opposite would be authoritarian or anti-authoritarian, it's possible to be conservative without being a fascist just like it's possible to be a socialist/communist without being authoritarian.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I saw a post recently - pretty sure it was in nottheonion - of a screencap of a Fox News segment, where they were interviewing someone that the caption described as an “anti-anti-fascist”.

Though to be fair, Fox News viewers aren’t likely to put two and two together. Or, for that matter, realize that an anti-anti-fascist is just a fascist.

[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

I got it right here, old bean.

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[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

To the fascist movement? Yes.