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[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

spoken like someone who never left the town of 10k

people like you act so smug to the people who make the tools or services you use. rural areas without cities are Bronze Age sustenance farming towns that die the second there is a bad harvest.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I come from a city of over a million.

You clearly never went to a small town to say that their tools come from major city centers. They try to do everything by themselves without relying on the big cities to the point where it can be frustrating to see them work with a local welder or machinist instead of simply buying the premade tool they actually need.

How does a city of millions provide rural areas with food when there's a bad harvest exactly? Name one city of 100k or more that is self sustaining in food and doesn't do any long distance import for it.

I'll wait.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

and I grew up in about the middle of nowhere in a region that was agr and tourism (and was not in a family that works in "hospitality"), ad honestly, the place was dead as far as actually having possibility outside these two sectors, or anything to do but drink after work is done.

No food is produced by mega farmers relying on tools that they certainly aren't producing themselves, you have this strange fairy tale idea of what a farmer is and does.

lastly, and fittingly, you are also ignorant of how modern production works, no place is self-sufficient, don't delude yourself into this bullshit, all the fucking society is extremely interconnected, hell you don't even need a bad harvest, if that farming town runs out of diesel they aren't producing shit anymore

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's funny about that is that I've got people close to me in the farming industry and let me tell you, I would put my faith in them before anyone from the city to be self sufficient.

Not all farms are mega farms and even the people working on mega farms have more than enough knowledge to grow food without all the tech they currently use. The reason they need it is to... Feed cities! If you only have hundreds of even thousands to feed you don't need fields that's are tens of thousands of acres.

Hell, look at poor countries, there's tons of self sufficient communities out there, none of them are urban. Why? Because food doesn't grow on concrete.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes, the "self suficent" communities that still rely on outside society to live at anything less than a Midevil standard of living

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Again, find me an example of a city that is self sufficient.