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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Not when you factor in the productivity and social harmony of a healthy citizen population.

[–] doctordevice@reddthat.com 18 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Until by the next year rent has universally increased by the UBI.

I'm fully in favor of UBI, but unless we can get a government that will actually crack down on price gouging all it will do is funnel right back to the crooks at the top.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Have to start somewhere, and starting with ubi is a lot better then the crooked system in place now.

[–] doctordevice@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd be fine with starting with it, though people seeing prices rise right after will be really disheartening. I'd rather start with actual legislation to punish price gouging. These companies posting record profits while the rest of us struggle more and more is absurd, and I would want to root out that greed first so any UBI can actually help the people at the bottom.

Of course, I don't expect the American government to do either of these things. Three Republicans will call it the work of Satan or something crazy like that and the Democrats will say they're all for it until they actually have the means to do it, then suddenly it'll be too much to handle.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yea, just start them. People are so conservative that doing anything different from the status quo scares them, but once we have social policies in place, people like them. Libraries, national parks, paved roads, garbage trucks, conservatives fought against every positive social policy, medicare, but then appreciated them once they were enacted.

I don't mind people possibly being surprised at inflation if their basic financial expenses are covered.

We haven't tried it yet, it works as expected in all the trials so far, just do it.

The mechanics of sensible ubi are straightforward: enough money or money/housing to ensure survival, public education, pay more to those who contribute more to society.

Nothing is perfect, but ensuring the health of the population and investing in their success is a much better model for progress and growth than the ridiculous she damaging disparity the states is investing in at the moment.

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